"Haimatox" (haimatox)
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"Haimatox" (haimatox)
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My parents are looking to replace my car, which is my dad's old Prius. I repeat, my dad's Prius. It was not my decision to drive it at all. Anyways, they insist that my next car be an SUV of some sort, preferably a compact SUV.
Some basic constraints: it must be an SUV, preferably a compact SUV. It must be safe (read: have safety features such as blindspot monitoring, precollision warning/braking, lane keep assist), it must be fairly economical (read: around 20/25), it must have enough cargo space for a college student (read: at least 30 cubic feet). They're currently thinking about the Subaru Forester, Mazda CX-5, Toyota Rav4, and other cars like that.
Those are my parent's requirements. I don't disagree with those, and I have some of my own. A manual gearbox would be much, much preferred over an automatic or CVT. Some sportiness would be ideal (read: 0-60 preferably below 8 seconds, less bodyroll than a waterbed on wheels). That's about it. Oh, one more thing. I'd prefer if it isn't usually associated with old people. Unless it's actually a good car. Thanks guys!
Nibby
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:48 |
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Forester. /thread
HammerheadFistpunch
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:49 |
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SG forester 2.5 manual. XT if they can swing it, but they probably wont. Its associated with lesbians, but that shouldn't put you off.
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Haimatox
> Nibby
12/05/2014 at 12:50 |
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Do you think it could be tuned for increased sportiness?
TheD0k_2many toys 2little time
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:50 |
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I have test drove a CX-5 and it is wonderful. Mazda did real good with it.
My mom has a 2011 Nissan Rouge CVT that isnt tool bad for her but not sporty at all.
If you can get the CX-5, do it, it is IMO the best crossover out there right now.
( I did lots of research about crossovers cause my mom just bought one this summer)
Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:51 |
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I'm gonna disagree with Nibby here.. get a Mazda. The Forester is a great car but if you're at the age where your mom and pop decide the car for you, you should REALLY go for the Mazda :)
Logansteno: Bought a VW?
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:51 |
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CX-5 or Escape would probably be your best bet on the okay to drive front. Though I don't think the CX-5 does 60 in under 8 seconds and I think the Escape only does with the 2.oT. Forester XT would probably be the best all rounder.
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Haimatox
> HammerheadFistpunch
12/05/2014 at 12:51 |
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SG? And I would hope for the XT, but it only comes with the CVT.
MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:52 |
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are you going used or new, whats the budget
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Haimatox
> Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh
12/05/2014 at 12:52 |
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They aren't really deciding the car for me, but they're outlining the parameters.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:53 |
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as a bonus with the SG, you can mod it anyway you want. from here
to here
and anywhere in between.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:54 |
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2003-2008
Also if they insist on brand new, the CVT in the XT isn't bad.
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Haimatox
> MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
12/05/2014 at 12:54 |
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New, and the budget is under $30k. The Prius is still worth at least $10k.
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Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:55 |
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Ahh.. well, I'd go for the Mazda anyway. Simply because the Subaru is more of a "have fun in places a car like this shouldn't be driven" car. The Mazda is more docile, but a VERY good handling car in normal roads.
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Haimatox
> HammerheadFistpunch
12/05/2014 at 12:55 |
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They are insisting indeed.
Milky
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:56 |
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On sale "early 2015".
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Haimatox
> Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh
12/05/2014 at 12:56 |
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Have fun in places like this shouldn't be driven? I.e. Offroad? I'm down with that. Rally all the cars!
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Nibby
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:56 |
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Probably. They handle surprisingly well for what they are.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:56 |
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done when I owned an SG XT 5 speed.
Sweet Trav
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:57 |
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What about a Cherokee Trailhawk?
I know its what I would get in a small SUV world.
TillTheWheelsFallOff: Brocoma
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:57 |
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Maybe look at the Renegade? I know it doesn't have the cargo space you need, but with the rear seats folded down, it's more than adequate. You can lower it, it comes with a stick for the 1.4 turbo, and I think it looks fantastic.
deekster_caddy
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:58 |
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Price range? New? lightly used?
If used, I love our '08 Passat Wagon. It's roomy, the 2.0 Turbo is quick enough and it handles very well. We have a 6 spd manual but they are hard to find. Not an SUV though, but if they want you to have an SUV for the space, this will meet the needs... lots of room in there and you can add a roof box in a desperate need. Great MPG too, an easy 30 highway with the manual.
If they want you to have an SUV for the AWD, well we just put snow tires on the Passat in the winter. Have never needed AWD and we take it to the northern mountains for skiing regularly. No loss of MPG for the AWD. It's traction control and electronic stability control system work very well, they had optional 8 gajillion airbag systems and it did very well on safety tests etc.
If you were to try to find one of these with AWD, they were available but only with the V6 and auto... but if you look hard you can find the FWD manual 2.0 Turbo version from time to time. Sorry, ours is not for sale!
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Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:58 |
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Yeah.. like that. It's just that I won't tell you to do that in a car that's not "yours" :P
Jayhawk Jake
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 12:58 |
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Renegade.
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MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 13:00 |
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My man Travis nailed it - Cherokee
I'd try and snag a deal on a Trailhawk, but it's hard to keep them under 30k.
Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 13:03 |
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Subaru Outback
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HammerheadFistpunch
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 13:09 |
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faster? don't bother unless you are doing an engine swap. Sportier handling? easy peasy.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> Sweet Trav
12/05/2014 at 13:10 |
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The 3.2 is actually a pretty fun drive. But they are cramped inside and probably are pretty lousy with reliability...but its new and in warranty so why not?
BeaterGT
> HammerheadFistpunch
12/05/2014 at 13:12 |
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I second this.
TheOnelectronic
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 13:12 |
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There is/was a Forester STI in the japanese market. So the possibility is definitely there.
jariten1781
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 13:12 |
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They have SUVs with lane keep and precollision braking for <30k? I'm pretty sure the forester and CX-5 don't. Maybe the RAV4...but I doubt it.
The cheapest I can think of that has all that is the XC60 and you'd have to special order it with a low trim and the 'technology package' to keep the price down and it'd still be ~40k.
Textured Soy Protein
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 13:14 |
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Are we talking new or used? Fwd or awd?
Regarding safety, the only new compact crossovers (I wouldn't call any of these an SUV) that pass the IIHS small overlap crash test with a Good rating are the Mazda CX-5, Nissan Rogue, and Subaru Forester. The Honda CR-V gets a Marginal rating, and the rest (Ford Escape, Hyundai Tucson, Kia Sportage, and Toyota RAV4) get a Poor rating.
The Rogue isn't available with a manual.
The CX-5 is only available in manual on the base Sport fwd trim. It comes with the slow 2.0 liter motor while all other trims including Sport awd have the 2.5 liter motor. Blind spot monitoring is standard on the Touring and Grand touring trims. Smart City Brake Support is optional on those trims.
The Forester is available with a manual in 2.5i and 2.5i Premium trims. Their electronic driver aid package, called EyeSight, is available on the 2.5i Premium, but only with the CVT.
So, hate to break it to you, but your desire for a manual transmission is incompatible with your parents' requirement of the best safety ratings, and active driver aids.
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TheOnelectronic
> Haimatox
12/05/2014 at 13:17 |
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Okay, wait, why are they insisting it be an SUV? Are they buying into the "SUV = Safe" mentality?
I don't have a great mental catalogue of what cars have the newer driving aids, but you're probably going to be confined to the people-haulers, since about the only way you can sell the upcharge for extraneous safety equipment at that price level is to appeal to fear, and parents love fear.
I'd vote for the Focus ST or similar sporty hatchback, except that it doesn't have the driving aids.
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Haimatox
> TheOnelectronic
12/05/2014 at 14:22 |
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Basically, and there's no changing their minds. Believe me.